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Randomatribute20k: I'm not the translator mentioned but I've added some input.

2025-04-12T07:05:17Z

I'm not the translator mentioned but I've added some input.

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	I found [https://infobiro.ba/article/1143917/sto-prodade-ozren-muslimanu-murisa-skapur another mention of him]! I can't understand any of it though. I'll ask a friend for a translation and I'll see what else I can dig up on this guy. Couldn't find any source mentioning him as "Ciganović" though. --[[User:Ziwi\|Ziwi]]		I found [https://infobiro.ba/article/1143917/sto-prodade-ozren-muslimanu-murisa-skapur another mention of him]! I can't understand any of it though. I'll ask a friend for a translation and I'll see what else I can dig up on this guy. Couldn't find any source mentioning him as "Ciganović" though. --[[User:Ziwi\|Ziwi]]

			I know of this transcript! As for the article you shared Ziwi, it's about the situation in Ozren circa late '93 and basically says that "America" (who was apparently a part of SDS leadership) fled to America after getting the spoils of war along with other members of leadership fleeing elsewhere. The "Ciganovic" name is used on the [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc pages of his court proceedings], though are the only sources that I can find that say it. --[[User:Randomatribute20k\|Randomatribute20k]]

Ziwi: Found another source

2025-04-11T23:26:33Z

Found another source

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	<nowiki>12 Q. Let's move on then.</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>12 Q. Let's move on then.</nowiki><br>
	It also mentions Božović if you read into it. --[[User:SrbinKrajisnik\|SrbinKrajisnik]] ([[User talk:SrbinKrajisnik\|talk]]) 22:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)		It also mentions Božović if you read into it. --[[User:SrbinKrajisnik\|SrbinKrajisnik]] ([[User talk:SrbinKrajisnik\|talk]]) 22:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

			I found [https://infobiro.ba/article/1143917/sto-prodade-ozren-muslimanu-murisa-skapur another mention of him]! I can't understand any of it though. I'll ask a friend for a translation and I'll see what else I can dig up on this guy. Couldn't find any source mentioning him as "Ciganović" though. --[[User:Ziwi\|Ziwi]]

SrbinKrajisnik at 22:25, 11 April 2025

2025-04-11T22:25:59Z

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	<nowiki>11 A. No.</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>11 A. No.</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>12 Q. Let's move on then.</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>12 Q. Let's move on then.</nowiki><br>
	It also mentions Božović if you read into it.		It also mentions Božović if you read into it. --[[User:SrbinKrajisnik\|SrbinKrajisnik]] ([[User talk:SrbinKrajisnik\|talk]]) 22:25, 11 April 2025 (UTC)

SrbinKrajisnik: /* Slavko "Amerika" */

2025-04-11T22:24:04Z

Slavko "Amerika"

SrbinKrajisnik: /* Slavko "Amerika" */

2025-04-11T22:23:31Z

Slavko "Amerika"

SrbinKrajisnik: /* Slavko "Amerika" */

2025-04-11T22:21:49Z

Slavko "Amerika"

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	I've googled the guy and found a [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc supposed court transcript] from an official UN website, which mentions this:<br>		I've googled the guy and found a [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc supposed court transcript] from an official UN website, which mentions this:<br>

	19 As you can see, it's a meeting in Doboj, 6 February 1993. So<br>		<nowiki>19 As you can see, it's a meeting in Doboj, 6 February 1993. So<br>
	20 we're in the same time zone. And he says at number 2, meeting with the<br>		20 we're in the same time zone. And he says at number 2, meeting with the<br>
	21 political structures in Doboj, number 2:<br>		21 political structures in Doboj, number 2:<br>
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	10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?<br>		10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?<br>
	11 A. No.<br>		11 A. No.<br>
	12 Q. Let's move on then.<br>		12 Q. Let's move on then.<br></nowiki>
	It also mentions Božović if you read into it.		It also mentions Božović if you read into it.

SrbinKrajisnik: /* Slavko "Amerika" */

2025-04-11T22:20:55Z

Slavko "Amerika"

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	== Slavko "Amerika" ==		== Slavko "Amerika" ==

	I've googled the guy and found a [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc supposed court transcript] from an official UN website, which mentions this:		I've googled the guy and found a [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc supposed court transcript] from an official UN website, which mentions this:<br>
	19 As you can see, it's a meeting in Doboj, 6 February 1993. So
	20 we're in the same time zone. And he says at number 2, meeting with the		19 As you can see, it's a meeting in Doboj, 6 February 1993. So<br>
	21 political structures in Doboj, number 2:		20 we're in the same time zone. And he says at number 2, meeting with the<br>
	22 "Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika, now called Ciganovic, lives in		21 political structures in Doboj, number 2:<br>
	23 Belgrade and has permission from Stanisic to form the Red Berets at Ozren		22 "Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika, now called Ciganovic, lives in<br>
	24 (Mico wrote an order for Bozovic to form a special unit at the CJB		23 Belgrade and has permission from Stanisic to form the Red Berets at Ozren<br>
	25 Security Centre in Doboj), and these units would serve for taking out the		24 (Mico wrote an order for Bozovic to form a special unit at the CJB<br>
	1 wealth from this area.-"		25 Security Centre in Doboj), and these units would serve for taking out the <br>
	2 Now, my question is were you aware in your role at the border,		1 wealth from this area.-"<br>
	3 your role at Bajina Basta, that Mico Stanisic, Republika Srpska MUP, was		2 Now, my question is were you aware in your role at the border,<br>
	4 engaged in organising paramilitaries in the region of Doboj. And in this		3 your role at Bajina Basta, that Mico Stanisic, Republika Srpska MUP, was<br>
	5 instance, according to Mladic, organising or giving permission to		4 engaged in organising paramilitaries in the region of Doboj. And in this<br>
	6 Bozovic. But just let's stick with: Were you aware that Mico Stanisic,		5 instance, according to Mladic, organising or giving permission to<br>
	7 commander of the Republika Srpska MUP, was engaged in giving permission		6 Bozovic. But just let's stick with: Were you aware that Mico Stanisic,<br>
	8 to special units in the Doboj area?		7 commander of the Republika Srpska MUP, was engaged in giving permission<br>
	9 A. No, I'm not aware of that.		8 to special units in the Doboj area?<br>
	10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?		9 A. No, I'm not aware of that.<br>
	11 A. No.		10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?<br>
	12 Q. Let's move on then.		11 A. No.<br>
			12 Q. Let's move on then.<br>
	It also mentions Božović if you read into it.		It also mentions Božović if you read into it.

SrbinKrajisnik: /* Slavko "Amerika" */ new section

2025-04-11T22:20:05Z

Slavko "Amerika": new section

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== Slavko "Amerika" ==

I've googled the guy and found a [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc supposed court transcript] from an official UN website, which mentions this:
19 As you can see, it's a meeting in Doboj, 6 February 1993. So
20 we're in the same time zone. And he says at number 2, meeting with the
21 political structures in Doboj, number 2:
22 "Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika, now called Ciganovic, lives in
23 Belgrade and has permission from Stanisic to form the Red Berets at Ozren
24 (Mico wrote an order for Bozovic to form a special unit at the CJB
25 Security Centre in Doboj), and these units would serve for taking out the
1 wealth from this area.-"
2 Now, my question is were you aware in your role at the border,
3 your role at Bajina Basta, that Mico Stanisic, Republika Srpska MUP, was
4 engaged in organising paramilitaries in the region of Doboj. And in this
5 instance, according to Mladic, organising or giving permission to
6 Bozovic. But just let's stick with: Were you aware that Mico Stanisic,
7 commander of the Republika Srpska MUP, was engaged in giving permission
8 to special units in the Doboj area?
9 A. No, I'm not aware of that.
10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?
11 A. No.
12 Q. Let's move on then.
It also mentions Božović if you read into it.

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	<nowiki>24 (Mico wrote an order for Bozovic to form a special unit at the CJB</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>24 (Mico wrote an order for Bozovic to form a special unit at the CJB</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>25 Security Centre in Doboj), and these units would serve for taking out the</nowiki> <br>		<nowiki>25 Security Centre in Doboj), and these units would serve for taking out the</nowiki> <br>
	<nowiki>1 wealth from this area.-"</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>1 wealth from this area.-"</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>2 Now, my question is were you aware in your role at the border,</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>2 Now, my question is were you aware in your role at the border,</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>3 your role at Bajina Basta, that Mico Stanisic, Republika Srpska MUP, was</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>3 your role at Bajina Basta, that Mico Stanisic, Republika Srpska MUP, was</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>4 engaged in organising paramilitaries in the region of Doboj. And in this</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>4 engaged in organising paramilitaries in the region of Doboj. And in this</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>5 instance, according to Mladic, organising or giving permission to</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>5 instance, according to Mladic, organising or giving permission to</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>6 Bozovic. But just let's stick with: Were you aware that Mico Stanisic,</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>6 Bozovic. But just let's stick with: Were you aware that Mico Stanisic,</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>7 commander of the Republika Srpska MUP, was engaged in giving permission</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>7 commander of the Republika Srpska MUP, was engaged in giving permission</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>8 to special units in the Doboj area?</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>8 to special units in the Doboj area?</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>9 A. No, I'm not aware of that.</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>9 A. No, I'm not aware of that.</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>11 A. No.</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>11 A. No.</nowiki><br>
	<nowiki>12 Q. Let's move on then.</nowiki><br>		<nowiki>12 Q. Let's move on then.</nowiki><br>
	It also mentions Božović if you read into it.		It also mentions Božović if you read into it.

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	I've googled the guy and found a [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc supposed court transcript] from an official UN website, which mentions this:<br>		I've googled the guy and found a [https://ucr.irmct.org/LegalRef/CMSDocStore/Public/English/Transcript/NotIndexable/MICT-15-96/TRS21010R0000634421.doc supposed court transcript] from an official UN website, which mentions this:<br>

	<nowiki>19 As you can see, it's a meeting in Doboj, 6 February 1993. So<br>		<nowiki>19 As you can see, it's a meeting in Doboj, 6 February 1993. So</nowiki><br>
	20 we're in the same time zone. And he says at number 2, meeting with the<br>		<nowiki>20 we're in the same time zone. And he says at number 2, meeting with the</nowiki><br>
	21 political structures in Doboj, number 2:<br>		<nowiki>21 political structures in Doboj, number 2:</nowiki><br>
	22 "Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika, now called Ciganovic, lives in<br>		<nowiki>22 "Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika, now called Ciganovic, lives in</nowiki><br>
	23 Belgrade and has permission from Stanisic to form the Red Berets at Ozren<br>		<nowiki>23 Belgrade and has permission from Stanisic to form the Red Berets at Ozren</nowiki><br>
	24 (Mico wrote an order for Bozovic to form a special unit at the CJB<br>		<nowiki>24 (Mico wrote an order for Bozovic to form a special unit at the CJB</nowiki><br>
	25 Security Centre in Doboj), and these units would serve for taking out the <br>		<nowiki>25 Security Centre in Doboj), and these units would serve for taking out the</nowiki> <br>
	1 wealth from this area.-"<br>		<nowiki>1 wealth from this area.-"</nowiki><br>
	2 Now, my question is were you aware in your role at the border,<br>		<nowiki>2 Now, my question is were you aware in your role at the border,</nowiki><br>
	3 your role at Bajina Basta, that Mico Stanisic, Republika Srpska MUP, was<br>		<nowiki>3 your role at Bajina Basta, that Mico Stanisic, Republika Srpska MUP, was</nowiki><br>
	4 engaged in organising paramilitaries in the region of Doboj. And in this<br>		<nowiki>4 engaged in organising paramilitaries in the region of Doboj. And in this</nowiki><br>
	5 instance, according to Mladic, organising or giving permission to<br>		<nowiki>5 instance, according to Mladic, organising or giving permission to</nowiki><br>
	6 Bozovic. But just let's stick with: Were you aware that Mico Stanisic,<br>		<nowiki>6 Bozovic. But just let's stick with: Were you aware that Mico Stanisic,</nowiki><br>
	7 commander of the Republika Srpska MUP, was engaged in giving permission<br>		<nowiki>7 commander of the Republika Srpska MUP, was engaged in giving permission</nowiki><br>
	8 to special units in the Doboj area?<br>		<nowiki>8 to special units in the Doboj area?</nowiki><br>
	9 A. No, I'm not aware of that.<br>		<nowiki>9 A. No, I'm not aware of that.</nowiki><br>
	10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?<br>		<nowiki>10 Q. Have you ever heard of Slavko Lazarevic, aka Amerika?</nowiki><br>
	11 A. No.<br>		<nowiki>11 A. No.</nowiki><br>
	12 Q. Let's move on then.<br><~~/nowiki~~>		<nowiki>12 Q. Let's move on then.</nowiki><br>
	It also mentions Božović if you read into it.		It also mentions Božović if you read into it.